The word is getting out
I thought you all would be able to appreciate that the word is indeed getting out about a low carb, high fat approach. Some more emphasis could be used on the low/moderate/adequate protein aspect, but progress is still progress. This guy Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt seems to have ralleyed together a slew of low carb experts via youtube interviews to help promote the cause and I feel that both he and Dr. Rosedale could benefit from some colaborarative efforts. The only low carb expert he has done any interviews or media efforts with that actually recommends keeping the protein levels in check is Dr. Stephen Phinney. I think Dr. Rosedale has superior knowledge that this audience needs to be aware of. Dr. Rosedale's understanding of these matters is far beyond the message these people are preaching. An example being the "safe starch" debate. In watching that, I could sense the frustration of Dr. Rosedale having been there, done that already, and knowing why his approach is correct, while everyone else is still playing catch up. It looked like a scientist having a debate with a few high school science students, the points that mattered where so far over their heads that they didn't hear them. I got the points though, which means others will as well. Anyhow, I thought this video would be worthwhile.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=FSeSTq-N4U4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch...
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Support Staff 1 Posted by Fiona on 25 Jan, 2013 04:15 AM
Thank you for passing this on to us and your message ;-). Yes, Dr. Ron was the first and then these guys, and the Eides, Mercola and Sission all followed, several give credit to Dr. Ron and many present as their own original information. I will reach out to Dr. Andreas though as it is a great idea, we also met him at one of the confirences in Boston.. great guy.
2 Posted by mikejulian26 on 25 Jan, 2013 04:52 PM
Another name of note is Dr. Peter Attia. He and Taubes started a non profit research group aimed at promoting unbiased research studies called NUsI(Nutritional Science Intitiative) with the hopes of finally bringing the standard of nutritional science to that of physics and other which wouldn't stand for the butchered standards nutrition has been subjected to. He's also promoting a low carb, moderate protein, high fat ketogenic diet, but being an athlete himself, has chosen to demonstrate its athletic benefit. This targets a whole new audience that I think is key to gaining wide exception of the concept. Proving the benefits such a dietary approach has with sick people is fantastic, but relatively healthy people(athletes and weekend warriors) still tend to see it as a diet to use if you have health issues rather than realize that those health issues are just further developed problems that many of them already suffer from and will eventually manifest. People naively see health as black and white when it truly is a full spectrum/continueum. Getting fit athletic people to see the light as I have from my own research and reading the works of great minds such as Dr. Rosedale is going to play a pivotal role in gaining widespread acceptance and future funding to support research in the area.
All the best,
Mike
Support Staff 3 Posted by Fiona on 25 Jan, 2013 07:27 PM
We also met with Peter and his family when we were in San diago in December and also Gary Taubes in Sam Francisco early last year. I believe they understand that Ron was the originator or low carb, moderate protein, high fat, the messages on both insulin and leptin and now mTOR. It is wonderful the organization they have put together and we hope it does very well. Dr. Ron talked about some ideas of the studies and also possible improvements to get a more finite result so that the results are not misinterpreted as many leaders in the health organizations would like to happen so they can continue what they are doing. I believe maybe they need to hear from others putting forth Dr. Ron's name suggesting his involvement. Keep the ideas flowing.
Fiona
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4 Posted by mikejulian26 on 02 Feb, 2013 03:38 AM
I just got information about an event being put on by Ben Greenfeild. Not sure if you've heard of him, but he's a triathlete that holds high praise for low carb, high fat, moderate protein. His event is called "becoming superhuman" and some of the guest speakers are people familiar with Dr. Rosedale. Jimmy Moore will be there as well as Nora Gedaugas who from what I can tell has based her whole dietary guidelines off of Dr. Rosedale's work. Her book is actually how I found out about him. I saw his name mentioned many times throughout her book via quotes and when I saw his AHS lecture I was compelled to find out more so I read his book. I think Dr. Rosedale would be perfectly suited to possibly speak at this event. He would be dealing with an audience that is already receptive to the concepts of his dietary approach. You could likely reach Ben via his website bengreenfeildfitness.com. Based on my understanding of his dietary views I think he'd be honored in having Dr. Rosdale speak and it may give Dr. Rosedale a new audience. Like I've said before, I think getting the athletic community on board with such an approach will speak volumes in terms of its broader acceptance.
5 Posted by mikejulian26 on 02 Feb, 2013 03:44 AM
Here's a link for the actual event. http://superhumancoach.com/become-superhuman-live-event/
Support Staff 6 Posted by Fiona on 02 Feb, 2013 11:23 AM
Dear Mike,
Thank you so much for the links and letting us know about the conference. Nora does have great admiration and respect for Dr. Ron and does openly share that she has learned a lot from him. It would be great if maybe you could post something to them as well as often it is by consumer requests. Last year Dr. Ron talked at quite a lot of paleo conferences which were great fun and the audience was very knowledgeable and passionate about health, not all had it perfect but certainly above your standard american! This year we have a few cancer conferences that have reached out to Dr. Ron by request of all the other speakers as being admired as the pioneer in many topics. I would love to see Dr. Ron also talk at some diabetic conferences as well so that we can cover the healthy, and improve the lives of those suffering and truly in need. We really appreciate your support and please keep us posted on talks and conferences that you see.
7 Posted by mikejulian26 on 02 Feb, 2013 09:26 PM
I put the word out to Ben via the link I posted above. I'll let you know if I get any response. From what I've gathered, his new superhuman coaching program is still in its infancy and he is still forming his main group of advisors. I am aware that Nora Gedgaugas is one of these advisors so if you have contact with her, you may be able to grease the wheels for some collaboration. Given her open praise for Dr. Ron, this may be a good avenue.
All the best,
Mike
8 Posted by mikejulian26 on 03 Feb, 2013 01:14 AM
It turns out that the speaking line up is already full, but he did say he would love to be able to add him. I suggested he consider possibly doing a podcast with Dr. Rosedale in the future. His podcast is highly rated and has a large audience.
Support Staff 9 Posted by Fiona on 04 Feb, 2013 05:39 AM
Mike.. you are awesome, thank you for supporting and promoting Dr. Ron's work. ;-))
10 Posted by mikejulian26 on 06 Feb, 2013 04:03 AM
You're very welcome. Dr. Ron's work was like a breath of fresh air to me so the least i can do is Give credit where credit is due. I'd reached the conclusion that this type of diet was the ideal diet to use as a foundation on my own, but his insight gave aswers to so many questions that I was only able to speculate about before. Things I now can confidently use to help explain the benefits of the approach without sounding like some kooky guru. As you well know, going against the conventional dogma brings sharp criticism from the unaware and in today's day and age where everyone is an expert because they read last months Men's Health or Shape magazine, the battles are frequent and irritating. I help people structure there diets for athletic purposes and the the occasional individual with vanity as their main drive. I use basically this same diet with everyone as a means of resetting their metabolism s to a normal fully functional"fat burning" one. A step most skip out of ignorance to what fully functioning means. Once this is achieved, I can make adjustments based on their individual goals, always with the understanding that the base diet is the healthiest and the tweaks are a slight sacrifice in order to get where you want to go. Once the goal is reached however, the base diet becomes the diet used to maintain their new results. My personal experience with this approach is akin to installing a transmission in a car that previously only had one gear. Far better performance is delivered with much less wear and tear when you finally have the ability to utilize your metabolism in it full capacity. A Ferrari can't perform like a Ferrari if the gearbox is broken.
Support Staff 11 Posted by Fiona on 06 Feb, 2013 07:04 AM
Dear Mike,
Thank you.. he has worked his buns off for the last 20+ years, the resistance gets old.. but we do feel finally that there is a shift. Finally people starting to see that calcium is not a good thing to take, or that antioxidants are not all that great to take for the reasons they are taking them, so soon fat will be loved again. Your athletes are lucky to have you! Where in the world are you?
12 Posted by mikejulian26 on 18 Feb, 2013 05:23 AM
I'm in Burbank CA. Currently in the process of switching careers so that I can help people full time. I've gotten so fed up with the poor advice I see given by trainers, coaches and most doctors that I felt I'd be doing a disservice by not getting into the health field full time.
Support Staff 13 Posted by Fiona on 18 Feb, 2013 05:32 AM
Yeah, that is great! Please let us know as you do 'find' people as we are trying to gather a list together as people ask all the time for a doctor like Ron and I just cannot send them anyway whole heartedly. I have been sending them the Jimmy more low carb doctor list and with several questions to ask so they know whether to run or not! If we can help in anyway let us know. Working on expanding our website, and also working on launching our supplements again which people have been so patiently waiting for.
14 Posted by mikejulian26 on 18 Feb, 2013 06:54 AM
I will definitely keep you posted. I want to handle nutrition and training and have plans of networking with a local chiropractor as well as a physician if I can find one who fits the bill. My aim would be to provide a holistic form of care covering all bases with everyone on the same page so the client/patient isn't trying to sift through conflicting guidance.
15 Posted by danco3636 on 09 Mar, 2013 06:17 PM
Hi Mike nice to see your posts here..... I too am into health and athleticism myself though just out of the pure joy of it and not income dependent. I am currently going though Ben Greenfield's super human coaching program. He puts out some great stuff. I am on that road of self-discovery in becoming fat adapt and using the PPP pathway. I got interest of this through Dr. Jack Kruse. I would love to hear about and follow your results.
What sports and activities do you currently do and at what level? Also has your approach in your experience worked out for power and sprint type athletes....
Regards,
- Dan
16 Posted by mikejulian26 on 15 Mar, 2013 03:32 AM
Hey Dan,
I'm glad to see some others on here who are interested in tinkering with this type of diet for their fitness endeavors. Ben Greenfield is definitely onto something with the whole superhuman concept. Are you going through his program to become a coach or are you receiving coaching? I have recently been reading some of Dr. Kruse's stuff as well. I have mixed feelings about it though, not that it's bad, but sometimes I feel like he makes things complex for the sake of being complex when the topics are really not all that complicated. That's just my take though, might just be his writing style.
Apart from the resistance training and sprinting I do for personal fitness, the only sports I really am into these days are surfing and snowboarding. I'm at a pretty high level in both, not a competitive level but highly advanced. I've toned it down a lot with snowboarding however cause the risk of injury has become more of a reality to me now that I'm in my thirties than it was in my teens and early twenties. I also am up for any of the tough muddier type events that a put on. If there in my area I try to do them, good times.
As for power and sprint type athletes, yes, it seems to work out very well. It takes sometime to adapt and you have to make some adjustments with respect to training volume and frequency, but it works very well. One point worh noting with regard to power and sprinting is that you can get a huge benefit from taking creatine and the strategic usage of a minimal amount of carbs eg the "safe starch" type or something like super starch. This is due to the energy systems that are used primarily to fuel these specific activities. The CP/creatinephosphate system is tapped out very quickly making creatine supplementation extremely beneficial for any power/sprint athlete, not just a vlc one. These activities are also highly dependent on anerobic glycolosis, so they do chew up a lot of muscle glycogen very quickly, making some extra carbs useful, but you need less than you'd think. Its important to go with the less is more type motto with the carbs because you really want your body to do as much of the glycogen replenishing on its own as it can. In time, your body becomes very proficient at this providing you train it to do so. In this situation, carbs are treated like a supplement. They are used to assist your recovery, not to be solely relied on.
What types of sports/activities are you into?
All the best,
Mike