Protein powder

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22 Sep, 2015 11:20 AM

Hello to all,

just want to know which protein labels of these two is best or if they are both great. Besides the vegetable proteins are counted as specified on the label or are not so well absorbed (as whey)?

One is this: http://www.pulsin.co.uk/pea-protein-isolate-250g

The second one in the file attached.

Should I be looking for a protein powder without the BCAA added since I have read something about it where dr Rosedale said it can be harmful too.
Thank for your help!

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Ken on 22 Sep, 2015 11:41 AM

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    If I were choosing between the two, I would go with the pea protein. This is only a suggestion not a recommendation.

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  2. 2 Posted by Kle on 22 Sep, 2015 11:53 AM

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    Thank you Ken for your prompt reply as always!

    Should I be avoiding the BCAA?

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Ken on 22 Sep, 2015 12:08 PM

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    Dr. Ron calls BCAAs a "Double-edged sword"

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  4. 4 Posted by Kle on 22 Sep, 2015 01:21 PM

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    Exactly! That's why I am unsure. I am checking but cannot find a protein powder without them. Are there any?

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Ken on 22 Sep, 2015 01:46 PM

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    I think that refers to getting the BCAAs in a " bundle by themselves". They would be a more potent form that way.

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  6. 6 Posted by Kle on 22 Sep, 2015 02:33 PM

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    Yeah in fact this reply was given to some athletes in order to build more mass. Well, I am afraid of BCAA may cause an insulin spike but protein powders are on A list so why are there if have some negative sides too?

    By the way since the Arginin and Glutamin acid are already included in these protein powders, should I still add them as supplement as described in the Health Plan Plus list?

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by Ken on 22 Sep, 2015 04:30 PM

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    Been out walking ...


    I believe Dr. Ron had something like this in mind Concentrated BCAAs — not the small amount in the protein powder.

    • BTW, the protein powder is not a must do thing, I enjoy Alaskan Pink Salmon for my protein and there are times that I treat myself with Alaskan Sockeye Salmon, which is "way yummy.".

    • You can take the Arginine and Glutamine if you like, I still do. I use Glutamine in capsule form, the powder drew moisture.


    Fle, there are a few things I know

    (1) I know that Dr. Ron is trust worthy - I have never met him in person but I have met him through his work.

    (2) I know what it is like to go from a 42 inch waist to a 29/30 inch waist.

    (3) I know what it is like to struggle with very high blood pressure for 25 plus years.

    (4) I know what it is like to struggle with type 2 diabetes for years.

    (5) I know what it is like to struggle with diabetic neuropathy in my legs.

    (6) I know what it is like to struggle with severe fatty liver.

    (7) I know what it is like to struggle with enlarged heart problems.

    (8) I know what it is like to struggle with not being able to breathe.

    (9) I know what it is like to struggle with side effects of meds and injections.

    (10) I know what it is like to have a $30,000.00 hospital bill disappear when I was given wrong IV meds — but that wasn't a struggle.   :-)

    (11) I know there are folks that try to partially mix Dr. Ron's Diet with other diets and say that his diet does not work for them..

    (12) I know that in order to learn how to swim, just sticking ones toes in the water is not going to work.


    I suggest that you put aside your over-cautiousness, do not try mixing Dr. Ron's Diet with other diets, do more than stick your toes in. You will find that Dr. Ron's Diet will indeed keep you afloat and you will not drown and you will learn how to swim into a healthier life.


    • So, jump in and go for the goal of a healthier life..

    Ken/   Rosedale Support Team

  8. 8 Posted by Kle on 22 Sep, 2015 04:51 PM

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    Ken,

    if I ask and information is specially because when I was on Rosedale I have never mixed it with another one. I like to be 100% in the rules. If not, I wouldn't be here trying to be sure of what to do.

    The protein solution is the best one just as breakfast since in the morning I have less time. So not a must of course but a solution to make this diet fit to my ordinary life. Besides, I don't think that by asking this or other questions I gave you the idea that I wasn't going to lead Rosedale's rules. My goal is to be without meds and since when I was on this diet previously I almost had reached this goal. I know is possible so I am not here because I don't believe in the diet but just to check things I may didn't understand. I am reading everything I can on this message board since in other places (group or FB) there no one reply often so where I should be asking such questions?

    I have read that Fiona eats a bit of dark chocolate from time to time if fits with ingredients that are allowed. There isn't that possibility on the list but I don't think Fiona is off the diet just because of that.

    Besides, I love Salmon too but since I suffer from IBS I will not be eating vegetables or very few so you know, nothing is obligatory, I can eat three ingredient and combine them all the time but I know myself and since I want to do this for LIFE and not for a month I know that I need to make this diet various in every way possible sticking to what is allowed only. Consider that I will not be able to eat many nuts too and everything that is full of fiber so you can immagine that will not be easy but I am still not going to give up.

    So please, don't you ever think that I am going to make a mix of anything cause I want to live a healthy life. If not, I would be eating junk foods like everyone around me. I don't want to make mistakes so this is why I make so many questions. Thought was a good think instead of jumping into something I don't understand.

    Thank you

  9. Support Staff 9 Posted by Ken on 22 Sep, 2015 05:22 PM

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    I am trying to not only encourage you but the others that visit the Help_Line, so my statements are intended for all.

    I have found Dr. Ron's Diet, to be very customisable but there are many who would not do what I do and I have found so many people who are over-cautious, which I have personal first-hand experience with.

    I look at what Dr. Ron says and what he doesn't say and make my choices upon that. Though Dr. Ron's book is dated, his Diet is still valid and has worked for me these past 3 years.

    I have learned a lot by using the Knowledge data base here on the help-line from questions and the answers given over the last 4 to 5 years.

    Still wishing you the best ..

    Ken/   Rosedale Support Team

  10. Support Staff 10 Posted by Ken on 22 Sep, 2015 07:02 PM

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    I would like to also mention, there have been, including myself, those that have been able to get off all meds and injections but there are those that have only been able to reduce their dosage, which is a great thing in itself.

    I have attained much help with my enlarged heart via C Q10, it is much stronger than it was 3 years ago and I am sure that it will continue to do so, however, only time will tell to what extent it will improve.

    Hopefully, you and others will be able to do likewise ..

    Ken/   Rosedale Support Team

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