osteopenia to osteoporosis.

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Margaret Barnato

18 Dec, 2012 05:35 PM

I am a 61 yr old female who, with my last bone density scan moved from osteopenia to osteoporosis. My lumbar spine scan showed an 8.2% loss vs my previous scan 3 1/2 yrs before. I have been studying nutrition for at least 10 years, since I found out I had osteopenia. This included reading Dr. Rosedale's book soon after it was released.
I have been gluten free (not 100%, but close) for about 8 years; but have been eating rice products and potatoes. I have a Fage 2% yogurt every day and eat hard cheeses and goat cheese and butter from grass fed cows. I have been trying to stay on a yeast-free diet because I have a tendency towards candida overgrowth in my gut. One of the best things I have found is a high quality collagen hydrolysate powder made from grass fed beef. There was a time when I felt I was not absorbing much of my food.
My questions are: 1)do I have enough fat in my body to count on it to burn fat when it needs energy if I follow your diet plan completely? I am 5' 5" tall & weigh 112lbs. 2) what supplements should I be taking? I have been taking vitamin D3 and B12 for about 1 year. Also, since menopause, have been taking estradiol 0.5mg and prometrium 100mg. I have wanted to take vitamin K based on your book but was not sure of which product to use.
I have recently read that osteoporosis may be linked to Alzheimer's disease. My father was confirmed to have had this upon autopsy. For this and my osteoporosis, I have a renewed interest in your work. Can you help? Margaret

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Fiona on 22 Dec, 2012 09:07 AM

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    Take K2 Mk7 would be great and also DHEA. Dr. Ron just said the estrogen that you are taking will not help the strength of your bones which is why it is typically given, are you taking it by mouth of transdermal? On our blog there are 2 or 3 interviews regarding calcium you really should listen to them or read them. WWW.DrRosedale.com/blog.

    It was a great question, would you mind if we made it public for others to learn as well, your email address will always remain private.

    Wishing you a wonderful time over the holidays.

  2. 2 Posted by Peggy Barnato on 02 Jan, 2013 08:09 PM

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    Fiona,

    Thanks for your response. I have a couple questions.
    Does Dr. Ron disagree with the use of HRT? I have used it because my
    mother used it successfully for 20 years. (appeared to have had anti-
    aging effects) When she was taken off of HRT, many health problems
    began- high blood pressure, high cholesterol, colon cancer. But, she
    survived to age 91. She did break both of her hips though. I had an
    estrogen metabolism test in 2010 which showed a high 2-OHE1 level and
    a high 2:16alpha-Hydroxyestrone ratio, with a normal 16alpha-OHE1
    level. These results were thought to be beneficial and not associated
    with estrogen dependent diseases like lupus or breast cancer. However
    the report said there may be an increased likelihood of osteoporosis
    with high 2-OHE1 production.(data was not available to confirm this)
    But, I have been told by physicians that estrogen is thought to have
    an effect on osteoclast activity similar to the way bisphosphonates
    do. I have been hesitant to even consider taking away the estrogen
    until I get my osteoporosis under control. I am currently taking
    estrogen pills orally.
    I started taking MK7 by Jarrow, 90mcg/capsule. The labeling says to
    take 1 capsule daily. Dr. Ron’s book says to take 8 mg of Vitamin K
    daily. What dose of Vitamin K-2 should I be taking?
    DHEA - What brands are high quality and what dosage should I be
    taking? Can I take this while I am still taking estrogen? In 2010, I
    had a pregnenolone test which showed 153 ng/dL. This is over the range
    for postmenopausal women, but within range for premenopausal women. I
    am not sure what is normal for postmenopausal women taking HRT.
    Thank you for your help.
    Margaret Barnato

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Dr. Rosedale on 07 Jan, 2013 06:57 AM

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    Yes, estrogens reduce osteoclastic activity. But this does not really help osteoporosis. That whole paradigm is totally false. We must increase osteoblastic activity that increases the protein matrix of bone. Improving leptin resistance/increasing leptin sensitivity is one of the few physiological events that does this. Also, improving leptin sensitivity/reducing leptin totally changes estrogen metabolism and metabolites.
    It is a great question that others can learn from, would you mind if made it public, your email will always remain private.

  4. 4 Posted by Peggy Barnato on 07 Jan, 2013 05:57 PM

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    Fiona- yes you can make this question & response public. Will you be addressing my other questions in a separate email? Thanks so much for the response. Also was wondering- how much does Dr. Rosedale charge for a private consultation?
    Thanks again, Margaret

    Sent from my iPhone

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Fiona on 09 Jan, 2013 05:12 AM

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    Hi Margaret,
    Sorry we don't always answer all of the questions just focus on the highlight maybe. Dr. Ron is deep into research right now but occasionally he does do a consultation especially when it is a situation that the client can be helped without the need for ongoing care as he cannot commit to that. His rate was in the past $575 for the hour, but often there was prep time and after time that often went over.

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