Grains Starch Bread Quinoa Amaranth

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05 Nov, 2012 04:21 PM

*Hello Dr. Rosedale,*
*I am reading your book once again and find that I have some questions. Is
the Manna Bread the same as the Ezequielbread? I can make my own as Iknow
how to bake bread, but since I am not living in the USA, I can't get Manna
bread, but I found a recipe for Ezequiel bread. 2nd. In figuring out the
amount of protein to eat per day, I was left with 69 grams, which is a
smaller amount than I have been used to eating. My waist is smaller thn my
hips not larger, which is a good thing, so I had to just divide my weight
in half. *
*I really want to get rid of my belly fat, and drop a few more pounds, but
keep them off. I am 69, about 5'2.75''. I am already on a pretty healthy
diet, but now will eliminate carrots from the salads I make, and instead of
eating even whole wheat bread, such as pita on weekends, I want to have a
substitute, so the Ezequiel bread sounds good. However it's made with
legumes which are not on the 3 weeks of the start up of the diet. What can
I do?*
*Thank you,*
*Tina *

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Fiona on 08 Nov, 2012 05:29 AM

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    Hi Tina,

    It seems for your height that your protein count is very high. I am 5.9 and I weigh about 130 and I have about 55 grams of protein and if I am more active I might go a little higher. My guess at 5'2.75'' you would be around 40-45 grams of protein a day. It does add up quickly for sure. So for the first week or so you might want to measure and weigh things so you know for sure how much protein you are having and also get used to eyeing the sizes. I believe Ezequiel bread uses sprout grains, I have seen some here and half a slice would be ok.. though not sure if we are talking about the same bread. You can make bread with almond or coconut flour that would be a safer bet. It is great that you have a curvy waist and in no time your signals will be working and knowing you have some eat to eat on your tummy. During the first 3 weeks make sure you take magnesium and potassium and also get a good fish oil that is stored in a glass bottle, never in a plastic bottle.

    Keep us posted on your progress.

  2. 2 Posted by Tina Aviles Mod... on 11 Nov, 2012 02:51 PM

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    Thanks for your reply. I found out by searching the internet that I was right on the money protein wise at 49 grams. I had been using the weight in grams not the grams of protein hence it looked high! Now I know how to gage it properly.

    As for the Manna bread which we can't buy here I would make it if I knew the ingredients.
    I asked for Ezequiel bread at the health food store and they had no clue! I believe it's made with sprouted grains. I could make the Manna bread if I knew the ingredients. Can you send them to me please?

    I have made excellent progress since my start of last Tuesday so not even one week yet! I lost 2 inches from my waist and 1 from my hips, plus 1 1/2 kilos. I'm very pleased with my progress.
    I was quite surprised to find that Dr. Rosedale uses Splenda! I will not ever use it, not even in small quantities.

    I look forward to the recipe for the bread.

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Fiona on 11 Nov, 2012 10:03 PM

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    You are right on track! You can go to the Julianne bakery website and see if they have the ingredients there for the manna from heaven. Also, the book was published in 2004 and the one major difference is the introduction to other sweeteners, for we also do not use Splenda and instead use stevia or xylitol. Keep us posted on your progress.

    Sent from my iPhone

  4. 4 Posted by Tina Aviles Mod... on 12 Nov, 2012 06:25 AM

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    Thanks for the tip! I looked up Julianne bakery and looked at their ingredients for their smart carb bread. One ingredient I'm not sure I will find as I am not familiar with it: wheat protein isolate. But I will search the net. I'll let you now if it works!

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Fiona on 12 Nov, 2012 06:56 AM

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    It sounds like that should be whey protein isolate. Though, I find some of their breads to just be too high on protein when trying to keep within my daily protein amounts.

  6. 6 Posted by Tina Aviles Mod... on 12 Nov, 2012 07:54 AM

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    Well then I can eliminate that ingredient. The rest are sprouts of: kamut,r ye, lentils, sesame seeds, millet, quinoa, amaranth, fresh ground flax seeds, wheat bran, oat bran, eggs, yeast, and sea salt. So you may be right that it was a typo as I never heard of wheat protein isolate, soy protein isolate yes.

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by Fiona on 12 Nov, 2012 09:01 AM

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    Would be interesting what you could make without any soy, and not sure if you can use coconut flour.

  8. 8 Posted by Tina Aviles Mod... on 12 Nov, 2012 10:50 AM

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    Yes indeed, but had no plans to use soy. I don't anymore. I am now soaking the beans and grains. In a couple of days I should be making the bread. I have never seen coconut flour, only coconut oil and grated coconut. But since you mentioned it I will search for it.
    It will of course tend to make the bread somewhat sweet.
    I'm so glad that you no longer recommend Splenda! I tried stevia once and found it bitter. So no stevia either.

  9. 9 Posted by tinaaliyah09 on 13 Nov, 2012 01:11 PM

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    Dear Fiona:
    Could you please tell me if it's ok to eat quinoa other than sprouted in
    the bread recipe? I know it's high in protein and not classified as a
    legume. I can't find it among the listed carbs to avoid nor among those to
    eat after the first 3 weeks. I sure would like to be able to include it in
    my balanced meals.


  10. Support Staff 10 Posted by Fiona on 14 Nov, 2012 11:25 PM

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    If you check out the nutritional data of quinoa you will see that it coverts to a lot of sugar and so like rice we would pass on it.

  11. Support Staff 11 Posted by Fiona on 14 Nov, 2012 11:26 PM

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    Hi Tina, you have some great questions here, would you mind if we made the conversation public so others can learn? I can take out your personal data at the bottom of ach email and also your email address will always be private.

  12. 12 Posted by Tina Aviles Mod... on 15 Nov, 2012 07:18 AM

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    Hi Fiona,
    That is fine. Anything to help. So go ahead and make the conversation public.
    I'm disappointed in the answer on quinoa though. I thought that because it's not a true grain and high in protein it would be ok.

    Here are some facts I found on the web: High in fiber and protein, quinoa is a flavorful seed that will fuel your workouts without spiking your blood sugar. The glycemic index of a food, ranked on a scale of 1 to 100, reflects that food's ability to elevate blood glucose after it is eaten.

    Foods with a glycemic index of 55 or lower, like quinoa, help to stabilize blood sugar while providing slow-release energy that will hold you steady through work or exercise.

    Read more:

    Quinoa is also mentioned below, and this is about timing when to eat carbs. Most interesting all of this.

    Carb type Examples When to eat
    Fibre-rich Vegetables (e.g., broccoli, kale, spinach, carrots, tomatoes, celery, cucumber, zucchini, beets, bok choy, lettuce, collards, pumpkin, radish, onion, chard, watercress, etc.)
    Most fruits Eat often ( I disagree with this one) and any time of day (especially for veggies) Veggies of course!
    Starchy Sprouted grain breads ( hope to make mine tomorrow, now sprouting!)
    Sprouted grain pasta
    Yams/sweet potatoes
    Long grain rices During the 3 hours or so after exercise

  13. Support Staff 13 Posted by Fiona on 15 Nov, 2012 10:48 AM

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    We never really read the marketing first, but instead jump to the nutritional data, the facts, if the facts look good then we might read a little of their marketing.

    Quinoa, carbs - fiber = 34 grams of sugar for just a cup of Quinoa. This is just too much.
    Brown rice is 41..
    White rice is 40 though a cup but it weighted less.

    I would not be tempted with these from your list.
    Sprouted grain pasta
    Yams/sweet potatoes
    Amaranth - converts to 41 grams of sugar for a cup! Just not worth it.
    Long grain rices

  14. Support Staff 14 Posted by Fiona on 07 Dec, 2012 10:15 AM

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    Dear Tina,

    Dr. Ron has written some smaller books for different health retreats and organizations, and is currently working on 3 amazing books that we hope will be published within the next year. The diet is the same as what you have in your book there, the only changes would be the newer options for sweeteners like stevia or xylotol, or to be a little more careful with the fish you might choose and where possible opt for wild fish over farmed fish. If you have not done already would be a good idea to sign up for our newsletter as that will be the way we will inform everyone about the books and give them first option to the them.

    Wishing you the best of health.

  15. 15 Posted by tinaaliyah09 on 07 Dec, 2012 10:51 AM

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    Thanks! Already only buying wild salmon from Norway, and small fish like
    sardines. No sweeteners, as I don't like stevia! I once tried it and found
    it bitter.
    All the best,



  16. Support Staff 16 Posted by Fiona on 11 Dec, 2012 08:26 AM

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    .. when we were in India they had a light brown colored debittered stevia which we tried in curd and it was the best I ever had, and I also don't like that bitter taste from stevia.

  17. Support Staff 17 Posted by Ken on 24 Jul, 2014 07:47 PM

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    Greetings Tina

    Welcome to the Help_Line.

    I read somewhere that someone said to use an extra egg or two when using coconut flour to make bread, helps it to stay together - I suppose one would need to experiment.


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