Coaching
Hi, can anyone recommend a coach to assist me with tweaking Dr Rosedale diet to get better impact. Still hanging onto about 10kgs that won't shift. Has anyone worked with Kat James? I know she follows Dr Rosedales principles
thanks,
Lisa
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Support Staff 1 Posted by Ken on 21 Jun, 2014 11:30 AM
Hi Lisa
• How long have you been using Dr. Ron's Plan?
• What approach are you presently taking - (ie) what are you eating and how much per meal?
• Especially interested in your intake of fat/oil .
• I personally have found that after the body starts to adapt to Dr. Ron's Plan and settles in for the long haul "if you will" it slows down with the weight loss, I assume to sort of protect itself. Give yourself 2 to 4 months leeway, it will shed the extra that is not needed at it's own pace. Try not to rush it, your body will take care of it.
Many times folks try to get rid of those last few extra kgs/lbs by overexercising which stresses the body. You are probably thinking that you have plateaued but again hang in there - your body will figure it out.
Give it time, it will happen ...
Plateau in weight loss
Weight Loss Stalled
Ken
Support Staff 2 Posted by Ken on 22 Jun, 2014 11:23 AM
Lisa
Three follow up questions ..
• Do you have Dr. Ron's book?
• Out of the 2 plans, which do you follow?
• How tall are you?
Thanks
Ken
Support Staff 3 Posted by Ken on 22 Jun, 2014 07:37 PM
Hi Lisa
I personally don't know Kat James but it is my understanding that she knows Dr. Ron's scientific principles and applies these in her culinary retreats better than anybody . She also has a great knowledge of nutraceuticals. She is recommended to anyone who would like personal coaching to apply the science into their every day lives .
Also, Kat has a three day intensive retreat in New York coming up early July, I believe July 11. Perhaps this would be something that you could and would like to attend .
Wishing You the Best,
Ken
4 Posted by LGW on 22 Jun, 2014 11:53 PM
Hi Ken
Thanks very much for that - I live in Australia so it's a bit hard to go over ther for just a few days however I'm going to do her tele call - thx for getting back to me w that info it was very helpful!
Regards
Lisa
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5 Posted by LGW on 22 Jun, 2014 11:56 PM
Ps I have just seen the other questions:
I have Ron's main book - is there another?
I eat pretty much a Paleo diet w no dairy - no grains at all - 1-2 small pieces fruit daily and abt 65 gms protein daily. Low carb - occasionally yams ( we all them sweet potato) only.
I'm 5ft 9in tall.
Thanks very much
Lisa
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6 Posted by LGW on 23 Jun, 2014 06:50 AM
Hi ken - I've just gotten onto support desk and see u had asked some other q's also.
So this is a rundown for yesterday: a bit different from the usual as it was a Sunday
Bfast: 1 small apple w 1 tbspn arrowroot flour and 1 x pastured egg made into fritters cooked in butter - coffee made w coconut milk
Lunch Thai green papaya salad with a handful of roasted cashews & 5 x medium grilled shrimp (we call them prawns!) & a Chai Latte made on half almond milk / half coconut milk ( we have a Paleo cafe here where I got this lunch)
Dinner: piece of fresh Snapper broiled in butter (about 300 gms in weight - I think that's abt 0.7 of a pound??) with cauliflower, broccoli,green beans and a very small piece of pumpkin (all steamed) w lemon juice and butter on the vegetables.
Snack: homemade nut cacao chocolate ( I make it w pure butter, cacao, cocoa butter, xylitol, nuts (almonds), pumpkin seeds, coconut flakes ( & chia seeds this time round) - only have a few pieces because it's very satisfying and doesn't cause cravings)
Also had about 1 cup of fresh young coconut water.
Would love feedback abt the ratios - I feel like I'm getting plenty of fats w the coconut milk, butter, coco oil in the 'chocolate' - I don't crave anything much through the day but I still hand onto this fat around my belly.
I m pretty sure I'm in ketosis ( my urine has a strong ketotic odour))
My mum is a type 2 diabetic and I was well on my way there before I started to eat like this but wondering if I could lose this bit of fat in the midriff that can't be good. I'm sure my leptin is still not quite right.
Look fwd to hearing.
Kind regards
Lisa
7 Posted by LGW on 23 Jun, 2014 09:29 AM
Hi ken - I've just gotten onto support desk and see u had asked some other q's also.
So this is a rundown for yesterday: a bit different from the usual as it was a Sunday - though similar in many ways.
Bfast: 1 small grated apple w 1 tbspn arrowroot flour/ teaspoon almond meal and 1 x pastured egg made into fritters cooked in butter - coffee made w coconut milk ( normally have 2 small pieces organic bacon and 1 egg & veges)
Lunch Thai green papaya salad with a handful of roasted cashews & 5 x medium grilled shrimp (we call them prawns!) & a Chai Latte made on half almond milk / half coconut milk ( we have a Paleo cafe here where I got this lunch so all oils/ dressings etc are good)
Dinner: piece of fresh Snapper broiled in butter (about 300 gms in weight - I think that's abt 0.7 of a pound??) with cauliflower, broccoli,green beans and a very small piece of pumpkin (all steamed) w lemon juice on fish and butter on the vegetables.
Snack: homemade nut chocolate ( I make it w pure butter, cacao, cocoa butter, xylitol, nuts (almonds), pumpkin seeds, coconut flakes ( & chia seeds this time round) - only have a few pieces because it's very satisfying and doesn't seem to cause me cravings)
Also had about 1 cup of fresh young coconut water. That's it.
Would love feedback abt the ratios - I feel like I'm getting plenty of fats w the coconut milk, butter, coco oil in the 'chocolate' - I don't crave anything much through the day but I still hand onto this fat around my belly.
I m pretty sure I'm in ketosis ( my urine has a strong ketotic odour))
My mum is a type 2 diabetic and I was well on my way there before I started to eat like this but wondering if I could lose this bit of fat in the midriff that can't be good. I'm sure my leptin is still not quite right.
Look fwd to hearing.
Kind regards
Lisa
8 Posted by LGW on 23 Jun, 2014 09:32 AM
Take plain supplement plan but not all of them all of the time but always Mg, Fish oils, Vit D, B complex, pregnenolone (this made a big difference to my energy) & ThyroGold for Hashimotos.
Support Staff 9 Posted by Ken on 23 Jun, 2014 04:33 PM
Hi Lisa
At the moment Dr. Ron has only one book that I am aware of but he is working on another one that is in the process of coming to fruition.
I tend to ask folks questions that come to the Help-Line in my quest to understand where they are coming from. (ie) Follow-up questions, at times, bring to light things such as Hashimotos, etc. This makes it easier to form a reply.
I see that being in Australia would be bit of a problem to take a trip to New York.
I am not familiar with Hashimotos but from the info I read it is does affect weight and appears to vary among different folks. I do know folks on meds for Hypothyroidism and that it affects their weight.
• for your height the 65g of daily protein is reasonable, depending on what you would like to weigh.
Dr. Ron's approach starts the process of normalizing the leptin and insulin in our systems, however, the time frame will not be the same for all..
I have been using Dr. Ron's Plan for 2 years this month and a host of things took place that first year. I have lost little over 90lbs/40kg and went from a 42”/ 106cm to 30”/ 76cm waist. I still have around 10lbs/4kg around my mid-section that I have been adjusting/lowering my fat intake in the last couple of weeks to see how my body responds in using that extra weight for fuel. I have found though (it appears) that the body, (mine at least) slows the weight loss process as it nears optimal levels, (this is only a hunch). I use a lot of oil, (mainly olive oil) for my daily fat intake with roughly 15g of fat that comes from my protein. I plan on doing stages of lowering fat intake in about 6 week intervals to see where the those extra pounds will start to be used. (This is kind of forcing the body to use-up that extra mid-section weight.)
• You may choose to do something similar but I encourage you to give your body ample time to start adjusting. This approach may work for you.
• If you don't mind, keep us on the Help_Line informed of what is working for you – I'm sure there are others going thru similar situations. After I see what works I will be posting my results here..
• BTW, I will not be using any extra exercise to speed things up, I want the weight to be governed by my food intake – I do exercise but not for weight control.
Thank you for your extra info, it's much appreciated.
Wishing you the best of health …
Ken
10 Posted by LGW on 23 Jun, 2014 08:45 PM
Thanks Ken - yes as soon as I wrote Hashimotos it twigged - I will just have to persist w what I'm doing and keep doing it - it would be great to have someone to assist with tweaking so I'm going to try the Kat James teleprogram - am sure it has some good ideas etc.
A lot of us probably wish Dr Rosedale still consulted but as has been said in other posts unfort he can't be cloned!
Kind Regards
Lisa
11 Posted by LGW on 23 Jun, 2014 08:46 PM
Ps thanks very much for your suggestions/ ideas & encouragement!
Support Staff 12 Posted by Ken on 23 Jun, 2014 09:04 PM
My pleasure Lisa - stay in touch here on the Help_Line, your journey can be an inspiration for others..
Ken
Support Staff 13 Posted by Fiona on 24 Jun, 2014 02:37 AM
Great thread! Thank you Ken ;-). The only thing I can see here that might be adding a kink depending on the product would be the coconut water and almond milk - here in the USA they can be a little on the high side in sugar, I guess is all depends how ripe the coconuts are. Also the almond milk - again by going the USA labels can sometimes be a little high in sugars. Kat and Dr. Ron know each other pretty well, he has talked via Skype at her retreats many times.
Keep up the great work.
14 Posted by LGW on 25 Jun, 2014 06:08 AM
thanks Fiona, will consider that info & cut it down
Lisa
Support Staff 15 Posted by Ken on 25 Jun, 2014 01:28 PM
Weight Loss Slow
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I came across an interesting article at My Fitness Pal. I have omitted and changed some of the wording here but believe the intent of the article is intact.
You can read its entirety here...
The science behind rapid weight loss and why it eventually slows down
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Here is the typical scenario:
Week 1, they see the scale move down a fraction of a pound or more every day. They are happy, they don’t feel hungry, and they think “Hey, this is easy”.
Somewhere during week 2 or 3 they have a day where the scale doesn’t present a new lower number. There might even be a day where the reading is higher than the day before. They mention, “I’ve kept my Carbs low. I’m not eating any more calories than the 1st week. I’ve been betrayed! I’ve failed! Low Carb diets don’t work! “ At best they are distressed. At worse they decide that Low Carb is not for them and they quit or move on to something else.
It is actually essential that it does slow down in order for you to lose FAT.
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Here is the science behind the rapid loss you see in the 1st week or so. On a Normal, high Carb diet your body stores glucose in your muscles and liver in the form of glycogen. Glycogen is a glucose molecule attached to several (3 to 7) molecules of water. Glucose is an easy to use source of energy for your body. All Carbs that you eat eventually get broken down into glucose and your body uses that glucose for energy. When people speak of “blood sugar” glucose is the sugar that is being measured.
In the beginning you cut way down on Carbs (all Carbs get broken down into glucose) so your body starts using the glycogen stored in your muscles as a source of glucose for energy. Recall that glycogen is glucose and a bunch of water. As it uses glycogen all of those associated water molecules get released and excreted also. This is why you experience rapid weight loss which is mostly water and glucose during the 1st week or so of a very low Carb diet.
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Many people are trying to “get into ketosis” a state where your body is burning fat for energy and in the process producing ketone bodies in the process. You can smell these on your breath, in your sweat, and they can be tested for in your urine. Under very high energy needs periods (intense exercise) your body will consume ketones for energy.
During periods of lower energy demand excess amounts of ketones will be excreted in your urine and can be detected with a test strip. Ketones in your urine are a sign that you are burning a good amount of fat for your energy. That fat can be from your body’s storage or in can be from what you eat or a combination of both.
Calories do count. If you eat way above your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) you will not be losing weight no matter what diet you are on. Lack of ketones in your urine is not a sign that you are not burning fat.
You can be burning fat and consuming all of your ketones with intense exercise. Following a tennis match it will show no or only a trace amount of ketones in my urine but the odor on my shirt tells me that there were plenty of them in my sweat. A day or two later there will be high levels in my urine.
You can also be burning fat as too slow a rate for ketones to build up in your bloodstream to the point where they will be excreted in your urine. Testing yourself really is not necessary, but if it gives you a sense of reassurance then go ahead and test.
You will not enter ketosis until after the rapid weight loss stops. The rapid loss is a sign you are using up glycogen stores. When they are depleted your body will start using stored fat for energy.
Why does my weight loss slow down? I haven’t changed anything!
• 1 lb of fat has 3500 calories.
• 1 lb of glycogen/water has 500 calories.
Everything else being the same (calorie deficit wise) you'll be losing weight at 1/7th the rate while burning fat as when you were burning glycogen. If you lost 7 lbs in your 1st week it is not a surprise at all that you'll lose 1 lb/week by your 2nd or 3rd week. One pound a week is good!!!!!! It is not a failure. It is success.
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• 1 lb/week good rate of weight loss (500 calories/day deficit)
• 2 lb/week aggressive rate of weight loss (1000 calories/day deficit)
• 3 lb/week VERY aggressive rate of weight loss (1500 calories/day deficit)
Without exercise you probably have to be on one of those medically supervised liquid diets. With exercise it can be done but you’ll probably not be able to perform at your peak levels.
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So, you were happy with losing 5 or 10 lbs in the first week and now your rate of loss has slowed to just one lb/week. You think that somehow you have failed. You have not.
The fact that your loss is slowing is success. It means that you kept your Carbs low enough to force your body to consume all of its glycogen stores. Now the good part comes where you are burning the fat stores.
Because fat has so many more calories/lb than glycogen your weight loss will be slower, actually more reasonable. You probably didn’t put all of that fat on your body in 5 lb/week increments. It isn’t reasonable to think that it will come off that fast.
Just remember, as fast as the glycogen/water weight came off it will come right back on if you return to a high carbohydrate diet.
Recapping:
When people say that all the weight you lose on Low Carb is water weight they are partially correct. You do lose a lot of water weight that first week or so, you also lose real glucose weight. Now there isn’t any more water weight left to lose. What you are losing is fat, but because fat is so calorically dense your rate of weight loss will be slower than the crazy high rate that you experienced in the beginning.
Support Staff 16 Posted by Ken on 25 Jun, 2014 03:45 PM
I mention the above article because in Dr. Ron's Book on pages 17-18; 39-40 - although he does not go into greater detail as in the article but if you research glycogen you will get a glimpse of the foundation that I believe he has laid out in his book.
Perhaps when Dr. Ron has time he can go into more details on things like this, most likely his book would turn into volumes.
It is my understanding that he is working on new material perhaps he has had the time for further details on subjects such as glycogen.
Ken
17 Posted by LGW on 28 Jun, 2014 05:50 AM
Thanks Ken - great 'food for thought'!
Support Staff 18 Posted by Ken on 28 Jun, 2014 12:36 PM
U R welcome Lisa
Have a good day..
Ken