Reversal Of Heart Disease?
Dr. Rosedale,
Thank you for this opportunity to ask the following questions about your program and its benefits.
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There are a number of programs that are recommended by physicians for the reversal of heart disease and the prevention or reversal of some cancers. Most notably, vegan diets by Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn or Dr. Joel Fuhrman document the before/after results of an aggressive eating plan. (eg http://www.heartattackproof.com/articles.htm) I wanted to ask if you have similar research and studies demonstrating the reversal similar to what Dr. Esselstyn has published? (My father died of heart disease and while he did exceptionally well using a vegan diet to reverse the disease in his arteries, he refused to stay on the diet, returned to his former poor eating and his healthy slipped rapidly as a result. Because of this, I want to proactively find an approach that I can live with near and long term.)
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Second, are there guidelines regarding general percentages of fat, protein and carbohydrates (primarily vegetables, of course)? For example, 50 - 60% fat, 20% protein and 20% carbohydrate? I understand the recommendation in your book (Lean Body Weight x .50), but, I wanted to better understand meal composition.
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I noted in your book an emphasis on fish? I avoid fish due to concerns over toxins (PCBs, mercury) in the fats and overfishing and prefer to get my protein from egg whites, poultry, lean meats, etc., and fats from nuts, avocados, etc. I wanted to confirm this would be acceptable?
Thank you for your insights.
Best regards,
Parker
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1 Posted by Parker on 19 Jul, 2012 09:35 PM
Hi,
Just giving this a "bump", primarily for question #1.
Thanks!
Support Staff 2 Posted by Fiona on 19 Jul, 2012 10:11 PM
Sorry we are out of town right now but we will be traveling back on the 19th and hope to work through the questions then.
Wishing you the best of health.
Sent from my iPhone
3 Posted by Parker on 26 Jul, 2012 02:57 AM
Hi Fiona,
Any feedback from the team on this?
Support Staff 4 Posted by Fiona on 26 Jul, 2012 03:18 AM
Dear Parker,
You mentioned that you prefer to get your protein from egg whites, poultry, lean meats, etc., and fats from nuts, avocados, etc which sounds great, though Dr. Ron always recommends the whole egg and not just the egg whites, is there a reason you do not like the yoke? You would need to get a good source of omega 3 which is quite essential and capsules in a plastic bottle will be rancid, so a fish oil in a glass bottle would be good.
Regarding wanting a percentage breakdown, fat / protein / etc, this is one thing that Dr. Ron has never really done as every body is different in their needs. The one consistent request is to keep an eye on your protein as too little or too much is not good. Fat, if a person has a lot of access fat especially in their middle then they might not need to add too much fat to their diet once they become a fat burner as they might have plenty of stored supply. Then the fiber carbs these are really just fillers if someone is just used to eating certain portion sizes. What Dr. Ron likes to have people focus on is eat when you are hungry, and be sure you are hungry and not just eating to fill an emotional need, and never eat too much at one time.
Dr. Joel Fuhrman has some wonderful documentation to show visually the difference, my guess this is showing the improvement from a SAD diet (standard american diet) to a vegan diet. It would be wonderful to then show the improvements again from a vegan to a Rosedale. I can only say first hand many patients have come to Dr. Ron from a vegan diet, and we have only seen further improvements in their labs, and conditions. It would be great to complete a clinical trial showing these journeys but these trials cost money, and doctors treating patients for the ultimate health and NOT following the 'standard of care' are cut off from any funding and support to complete these trials. So exceptional doctors like Rosedale and Fuhrman are often on their own trying to get the true message of health out there.
Best of health.
5 Posted by Parker on 26 Jul, 2012 01:48 PM
Hi Fiona and thank you for the detailed response.
"You mentioned that you prefer to get your protein from egg whites, poultry, lean meats, etc., and fats from nuts, avocados, etc which sounds great, though Dr. Ron always recommends the whole egg and not just the egg whites, is there a reason you do not like the yoke? You would need to get a good source of omega 3 which is quite essential and capsules in a plastic bottle will be rancid, so a fish oil in a glass bottle would be good."
I noted Dr. Rosedale is not a big fan of SFAs in his book, which the yolk contains--but not a lot of Omega 3, and, animal fats are a depository for toxins, including hormones and chemicals. (As we've sadly found out, fish are some of the worst with PCBs, mercury, etc.) So, I use Udo Eramus' EFA products and consume nuts (eg walnuts) which also contain Omega 3. With the current factory farming practices in the US, I'm concerned moreso about what is in the animal fat than the SFAs.
Regarding studies, if a patient is carrying fat around the middle and his/her bloodwork indicates elevated triglycerides and LDL along with CRP and has other symptoms such as high BP--while I'm not a doctor--one would assume that individual is probably facing inflamed arteries and vascular disease via fat and plaque build up. While PET scans and angiograms are not unexpensive, Dr. Rosedale notes in the latter half of his book the reversal of heart disease through his diet hence I'm wondering how that is validated? As a comparison:
Dr. K. Lance Gould's book and newsletters should PET scans of patients with limited blood flow to the heart and the results afterwards, increased bloodflow.
Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn posted the angiogram on his site of a patient's reversal (http://www.heartattackproof.com/cardio1.jpg) and I saw my father's a couple of months after he went on Dr. Esselstyn's program and at 68, he had the same results. I may be wrong, but, I think former Bill Clinton also had his angiogram released after a year on Dr. Esselstyn's program.
Apologies for the questions, but, hope you can understand my curiosity. :o)
6 Posted by Parker on 27 Jul, 2012 11:29 AM
Apologies for the typos...multi-taking when I wrote the post.
Unexpensive = inexpensive
"...should PET scans..." = "showed PET scans..."
7 Posted by Liz on 10 Dec, 2012 01:01 AM
I would love if Dr. Rosedale could answer Parker's question. I would love to see PET scans or evidence behind the claims.
Support Staff 8 Posted by Fiona on 11 Dec, 2012 08:55 AM
Hi Park and Liz,
Sorry Dr. Ron has been trying to finish his 3 books he has been working on for some time, in between of public talks, though I have this message flagged in his box which he gets to when he can. His facts are based on his own patient outcomes, one of them in fact that founded Heart Support of America and you can read his story and his letter on his site regarding his personal results from Dr. Ron's treatments, we have files and files of people just like Mr. Halliburton http://heartsupportofamerica.org/metabolic-medicine.shtml While Dr. Ron had his practice, his main focus was just getting patients in the right direction and out of the operating room, verses creating a formal 'study' out of them, of course hide sight would have been the wiser move. He then spent many years trying to change the recommendations of the American Diabetes Association but their ears lean toward those with their largest donations which is why their recommendations remain to 'maintain' a persona diabetes rather than to cure it. Then there are lots of ground work with leptin, insulin and later mTOR which are the great leaders and where the focus of health should be. Then more years to do clinical trials with a large hospital chain in India whom we thought were immune from pharma being they were publicly funded by an insurance company. However, all of the studies were turned down unless we agreed to change the program so that it would 'maintain' all the patients drugs.. Dr. Ron of course would never agree to that as it is the drugs that often then become the cause of a disease. Maybe it has been old hat for over 20 years for Dr. Ron to see massive improvements in cardiac patients, but his passion is in the major roots of health, as that then just makes all diseases just symptoms so his focus is on a much larger picture that then the story to prove the cardiac success becomes small fish compared to his real goal, which would answer and prove the results for all, cardiac, cancer, diabetes, and so on. He does love seeing more and more people reading and researching for themselves, once you read enough studies you get to sniff out what is truth and not. You would both love his new book, it is very deep and most will not be able to follow it, but it is mind blowing when you start to get to the deeper inner workings and what is really going on, it become very clear so then the smaller questions will fade away with the bigger picture, the dots connected in clear view. The other 2 books, one is the Rosedale 2 (different name though) and the 3rd a simple enlightening book about the simple followed errors in the medical world.
Keep up the good work.
9 Posted by Lisa on 30 Apr, 2014 03:28 PM
I very much enjoyed reading these discussions. I , too, am trying to figure out the differences between Dr. Fuhrmans outlook and the Rosedale Diet.....I have read so much information in the past several years I feel overwhelmed and just want to live a strong healthy balanced educated life. It becomes overwhelming and confusing which then stops me from getting started on a new lifestyle.... HELP.....I would be interested in Ron's new books...