Dairy Question

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15 Feb, 2012 09:31 PM

No-Fat Cottage Cheese is listed as a dairy option on the "A" List foods and when you get to the "B" List 1% is allowed. Which is better? Then I read that after the first 3 weeks, heavy cream is allowed in moderation. I am confused as to what I am supposed to be looking for on the labels. Low total sugar?

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Fiona on 16 Feb, 2012 08:53 AM

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    Hi Katie,

    Oh boy I would be confused as well, we are so sorry. So let me try to clear it up for you. During the first 3 weeks we find that a hardcore sugar burner will have a hard time burning fats. So easing into a high fat diet works best till their body gets used to it. If you ever see a low fat recommendation this typically is only during that transition period, after that low fat anything is out! I remember when I first converted over to the Rosedale way of life, he turned all I knew about health and healthy eating upside down and I was so confused. As I walked around the supermarket in a daze then doubting if I knew what protein was! Before you know it, it will all be old hat for you as well. If I were you I would really be 100% strict for these 3 weeks, break through into becoming a fat burner. Then full fat it is. Just count your protein, take out the carbs, make sure you use only good oils, so no commercial salad dressings, safflower oil, sunflower and peanut oils. Good oils like olive and coconut oils are great and will satiate you. We love adding avocados to salads, or lettuce sandwiches. There are some wonderful low carb tortillas as well. The things we always have in kitchen are eggs, coconut oil, almond flour, coconut flour, xylotol, salads, nuts. We love indian food, and so a few frozen meals of palak panner in the freezer if we have nothing at hand and no time to make anything. A little treat is half a cup of blueberries with some full fat sour cream, or a whey protein drink mixed with a little organic no caffeine coffee with some full fat whipping cream on top. About once a week I make almond muffins, they are so very filling and very quick to make. When you go out to restaurants just know that often they never fry foods in butter or ghee. Also ask to not have the meals with potatoes, rice, and replace with veggies or salad if possible. Always keep some almonds in the bag with you. Once you pass the 3 week mark, a little square of dark chocolate is nice, check the label; carbs - fiber = true sugar so try get the lowest, trader joes has a great selection. Life is so much better, no madness starving hunger, no lows, just an even balance, calmness. Also, on the B plan, the publisher did want to add in other foods so the plan would be more appealing. I don't bother with apples and stuff, for the sugar equivalent I would much rather have something a little naughtier than an apple!

    Keep us posted on your progress.

  2. 2 Posted by Katie on 16 Feb, 2012 04:05 PM

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    Thanks Fiona - your response was helpful. What Whey Protein do you suggest?

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Fiona on 16 Feb, 2012 10:02 PM

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    We like a whey protein from ON, optimal nutrition.

  4. 4 Posted by Katie on 21 Feb, 2012 03:53 PM

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    I am sorry but I cannot find a Whey Protein by that name. There is Optimum Nutrition or I found Pro Optimal.

    Could you give me more specific details?


  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Fiona on 22 Feb, 2012 01:17 AM

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    ON is on their packaging, the name is optimal nutrition, the same thing.

  6. 6 Posted by Paula on 26 Mar, 2013 01:17 PM

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    Hi there,
    May I request the following:
    - Your almond muffin recipe - Where do you buy Optimal Nutrition Whey? Thanks for your time and have a great day!

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by Fiona on 26 Mar, 2013 08:22 PM

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    Optimal Nutrition Whey we get at the vitamin shoppe, and the recipe for the muffins is on our blog. http://drrosedale.com/blog/2011/11/01/rosedale-almond-cookies/

  8. 8 Posted by Kle on 21 Sep, 2015 10:07 PM

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    Hello Fiona and all of you,

    I was confused about this question too and I hot used during three weeks no fat yoghurt that is a kind of cheese and almost non fat ricotta cheese. The only cream cheese that can be found here is the Philadelphia one but I guess that this is not good right?

    What I am confused about is that on the list B there appears Cheddar, Monterey jack, Provolone Swiss and is allowed in limited quantities but these appears on the C list too. What does this mean?

    After three weeks everything full fat is accepted but ricotta full fat isn't too overloaded with unhealthy fats?

    Actually the "dairy" section makes me quite confused, still. Can you please explain me?

    Besides, I was looking for the ON protein shakes on Iherb but there are so many that I have no idea which one could be the right one. Can anyone please advised me?

    Thank you again to all!

  9. Support Staff 9 Posted by Ken on 21 Sep, 2015 10:47 PM

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    Dr. Ron isn't a big fan of dairy products and recommends, "limited quantities" - Sugar and saturated fat, (especially that which comes from grain-fed cattle), is the thing about dairy products..

    • When choosing a protein to be used for shakes, read labels, many are flavored, which usually means sugar

    I personally gave up looking for the right protein mix for shakes about 2 years or so ago. It hasn't hurt me any   :-)

    Ken/   Rosedale Support Team

  10. 10 Posted by Kle on 28 Sep, 2015 04:30 PM

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    Dear Fiona,

    a friend of mine (doesn't speak english) wants to know if the Nancy's cream cheese is comparable to this cream cheese (label attached).

    On my opinion is even better according to data but I don't want to be the final judge. She knows that dairy is best to avoid completely though.

  11. 11 Posted by Kle on 28 Sep, 2015 04:36 PM

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    Oh I forgot the label of Nancy's. Here it is attached. Sorry :-)

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